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	<title>Comments on: Evaluating Frameworks</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://technovangelism.com/blog/2009/04/14/evaluating-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grails does have unit and integration testing built in. Whenever you create a new class, Grails automatically generates the test files (unit and integration) associated with the file. Functional testing is handled by plugins, thankfully.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The framework having tests on itself would be great for less-mature frameworks. There are portions of Grails that I would like to change, and an built-in test suite would ensure that I do not break other parts of the framework when making modifications.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grails does have unit and integration testing built in. Whenever you create a new class, Grails automatically generates the test files (unit and integration) associated with the file. Functional testing is handled by plugins, thankfully.</p>

<p>The framework having tests on itself would be great for less-mature frameworks. There are portions of Grails that I would like to change, and an built-in test suite would ensure that I do not break other parts of the framework when making modifications.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://technovangelism.com/blog/2009/04/14/evaluating-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rails, and I assume Grails, comes with a huge test suite on itself. Check out http://github.com/rails/rails/tree/master and look inside the folders and you&#039;ll find a &quot;test&quot; directory that is filled with tests. In fact, when contributing code to Rails, the core team will not accept your changes unless it comes with a testcase(s) proving your changes work.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rails, and I assume Grails, comes with a huge test suite on itself. Check out <a href="http://github.com/rails/rails/tree/master" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/rails/rails/tree/master</a> and look inside the folders and you&#8217;ll find a &#8220;test&#8221; directory that is filled with tests. In fact, when contributing code to Rails, the core team will not accept your changes unless it comes with a testcase(s) proving your changes work.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://technovangelism.com/blog/2009/04/14/evaluating-frameworks/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing I&#039;ve been pondering lately is testing of the framework itself. I love that Rails/Grails/etc does a lot of the work for me, but when I think of testing, I realize I place a lot of faith in the framework/language itself. Do you see any value in frameworks coming with built-in tests on itself?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve been pondering lately is testing of the framework itself. I love that Rails/Grails/etc does a lot of the work for me, but when I think of testing, I realize I place a lot of faith in the framework/language itself. Do you see any value in frameworks coming with built-in tests on itself?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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